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    Social Democrats, USA
  • Successor to the Socialist Party, USA, the party of Eugene Debs, Norman Thomas, and Bayard Rustin and a member of the Socialist International.
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What made the Social Democratscome into power in 1919?
I can't really find any specifics why they came into power. I know that Luxemburg and Liebknecht were murdered so basically the leaders of the Sparticists were gone meaning the Social Democrats really had no competition for power. Another reason may be because german people wanted stability, and the Social Democrats were a moderate party, they weren't extremists. This is what i think helped them gain power. Any other info would help me greatly thanks.
Although the Reichstag in pre WW1 Germany had no real power, regular elections were held. The left of centre Social Democrats always got the most votes and had the most deputies; this was also true throughout WW1. When Hindenburg and Ludendorf realized the war was lost, they advised the Kaiser to abdicate and hand power over to a civilian government (which he did). As the largest party, the Social Democrats therefore formed the first German civilian government. The Allies were happy enough with this post WW1 - the Social Democrats were committed to democracy as a form of government and, until the Nazis came along, remained the majority party in Reichstag elections.
When did the criminals in theANC stop being Communists andbecome 'Social Democrats'?
Saw an interesting thing on Wikipedia recently, the ANC went from being Communists to 'Social Democrats.' No difference really, Vladimir Lenin was at the inception of both movements. Both believe in welfare states. Both emphasize equal outcome over equal opportunity. Both restrict individual rights. Both believe in the criminal 'redistribution of wealth.' Both stemmed from ideas put forth by Karl Marx. Both propogate a mob mentality. I'm also curious about how South Africans feel about their new socially democratic allies in China, who have brutally supressed their populace since Mao Tse Tung's revolution? Alias Smith And Jones - the current South African President,Thabo Mbeki, received training in the former USSR, genius. They're Communists. Oh yes, I was being sarcastic about the Chinese being 'social democrats.' Loving Resistance anti-Semite: Because the ANC calls themselves something else, doesn't change what they are - Communist thugs that consort with other brutal Communist dictatorial regimes; China, Cuba, Zimbabwe. There's a reason why those countries are your allies. There's a reason why Thabo Mbeki trained in the former USSR. Socialism is a political system derived from hard core Communism. Marx and Lenin were at the inception of both. The United States was absolutely correct in supporting the former National Party, in order to prevent the chaos and collectivist mess in what used to be South Africa today. Apartheid would have disintegrated on its own, as it was an illogical and unnecessarily cruel political system despised by the majority of whites, as well as the suffering black majority. It had to go. Any collectivist political system, like Socialism, is based on a mob mentality, as it negates free enterprise. Capitalism is the only logical political system Never did answer my question about Bush and Mbeki, did you? Just as you neatly sidestepped the issue of the lunatic Rabbi Ahron Cohen when I called you on it. Also, you need to learn how to read - saying that someone was at the inception of something doesn't mean that they 'started it.'
Well, I have not read the Wikipedia yet , and will do so soon. As I understood it; the ANC had a very close alliance with the SACP, but never were communists. Save in the mind of the Verwoerd government who believed that anyone who is not calvinist, white and right wing must be communist. I would love to ask the ANC whether they ever considered themselves communist, but I will read the wikipedia insert Brad.
What is the difference betweenthe Social democrats andsocial revolutionaries inRussia?
I understand that these were the two biggest revolutionary organizations in Russia prior to the revolutions, but my question is what is the difference in their ideologies and the way that they conducted their revolutionary activities. Also, if possible, could the main leaders and proponents of these two be named. Thank you in advance!!
I'm assuming you're referring to the Bolsheviks, which were only one faction of the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party. The other was the Mensheviks, who were fairly similar to the Socialist Revolutionaries. Bolshevik leaders included Lenin, Trotsky, Kamenev, Zinoviev, Kalinin, Stalin, and Lunacharsky. Socialist Revolutionary leaders included Kerensky, Gotz, Chernov, and Tereshchenko. If you mean the Mensheviks, their leader was Martov. Now onto their platforms. The Bolsheviks were a truly revolutionary organization, not just a party. They wanted quick and radical change through an armed revolution, like the one Marx had predicted decades earlier. The new society created by this revolution would be socialist, with exaltation of the workers and peasants. The Socialist Revolutionaries claimed to want communism at some point, but the believed that, in keeping with orthodox Marxist tradition, there must be a capitalist phase before communism can occur. As Russia up to that point had been feudalist, the Socialist Revolutionaries wanted to implement capitalism, and not through revolution, but through normal government operations. Another thing, the Bolsheviks wanted Russia to leave WWI (which they were losing badly) immediately. The Socialist Revolutionaries wanted to continue the war, arguing that while it may have started as a war of imperialism, it had become a war of defense. edit forgot to put how they conducted their revolutionary activities. here goes: The Socialist Revolutionaries had been very popular in the early years of the Provisional Government (which had been ruling since the czar abdicated) and so they were given control over it. Once in control, they didn't really have to be revolutionary anymore, as long as they kept power. So, in order to keep power in spite of their waning popularity, they began to delay elections indefinitely. Certain newspapers were silenced, and the government tried to assert totalitarian control, as the czar had. They might have gotten away with it, but they had very little power by the time they got desperate. The Bolsheviks simply wanted to have a massive popular revolt, and they achieved that in November 1917. Up until then, they were halfway between a political party and a revolutionary organization. Many of its leaders (including Lenin) were still hiding in western Europe when the czar abdicated, but once the atmosphere became slightly more democratic, they adapted. They appealed to workers, peasants, and soldiers, who were very large groups, and so they gained much support. Another thing I forgot to mention, the Bolsheviks wanted all power to the soviets, which were one of the few government bodies which had remained truly democratic.
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