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syriac orthodoxchurch,assyrian church,assyrian church of the eastare they the same? mainquestion below?
are they the same? or is it as shown here: syriac orthodox church part of oriental orthadoxy; assyrian church of the east is its own denomination; and the assyrian church is part of eastern orothdoxy or its the same as the assyrian church of the east,am i correct on "or it is as shown here" on the churches
There are three Nestorian Churches that all stem from the same 18th century root. The first is the Assyrian Church of the East, the second is the Ancient Church of the East (split from the Assyrian Church of the East in the 1970's over the issue of succession), and the third is the Chaldean Catholic Church (now in communion with Rome, split from the Assyrian Church in the 1700's). Besides that, there are three other Churches that call themselves "Syrian Orthodox" - the first is the Patriarchate of Alexandria, which is Eastern Orthodox, and includes both Syrian and Lebanese Christians. The other two are the Melkites and the Maronites, one of which is an independent Monophysite denomination, the other of which is in communion with the Roman Catholic Church (but I can't remember which is which). Now, technically the Nestorians and Monophysites are both considered "Oriental Orthodox" (and also "Non-Chalcedonian"), so all of the Churches mentioned above are Oriental Orthodox and non-Chalcedonian except for the Patriarchate of Antioch, which is Eastern Orthodox.
Is the Assyrian Church of theEast in full communion withthe Roman Catholic Church?
I've been given this impression by the following apologist: http://credo.stormloader.com/E cumenic/assyrians.htm He states that the Assyrian Church of the East has recanted their "Nestorian" beliefs about Jesus Christ thus healing the 4th century schism. Is this true? Can anyone elaborate a bit? If this apologist is incorrect (or if I'm misunderstanding him) can you please explain how so?
Maybe this answers your question: "The Catholic Syrian Church dates from 1781. At that time a number of Jacobite bishops, priests, and lay people, who had agreed to reunion with Rome, elected one Ignatius Giarve to succeed the dead Jacobite patriarch, George III. Giarve sent to Rome asking for recognition and a pallium, and submitting in all things to the pope's authority. But he was then deposed by those of his people who clung to Jacobitism, and a Jacobite patriarch was elected. From this time there have been two rival successions. In 1830 the Catholic Syrians were acknowledged by the Turkish Government as a separate millet. The Catholic patriarch lives at Beirut, most of his flock in Mesopotamia. Under him are three archbishops and six other bishops, five monasteries, and about 25,000 families."
are the assyrian orthodoxchurch or "assryian church"and the assyrian church of theeast the same thing?
help doung project on church denoinations are they the same thing or different? i already know about the syriac orthodox curch i know they are completly different. thanks
The Holy Apostolic Catholic Assyrian Church of the East, currently presided over by Mar Dinkha IV, is a Christian church and one of the earliest churches to separate from the Catholic Church. It traces its origins to the See of Seleucia-Ctesiphon, founded by Saint Thomas the Apostle as well as Saint Mari and Addai as evidenced in the Doctrine of Addai. This church is sometimes referred to as the "Nestorian Church", the "Syrian Church" or the "Persian Church." It has also been referred to, inaccurately, by a number of other names. These include Assyrian Orthodox Church, which has led some to mistakenly believe that it is a body of the Oriental Orthodox community. The church itself does not use the word "Orthodox" in any of its service books or in any of its official correspondence, nor does it use any word which can be translated as "correct faith" or "correct doctrine", the rough translation of the word Orthodox. In India, it is known as the Chaldean Syrian Church. In the West it is often known as the Nestorian Church although the Church itself considers the term pejorative. The church declares that no other church has suffered as many martyrdoms as the Assyrian Church of the East. The Assyrian Church is the original Christian church in what was once Parthia; eastern Iraq and Iran. Geographically it stretched in the medieval period to China and India: a monument found in Xi'an (Hsi-an), the Tang-period capital of China (originally Chang'an), in Chinese and Syriac described the activities of the church in the 7th and 8th century, while half a millennium later a Chinese monk went from Beijing to Paris and Rome to call for an alliance with the Mongols against the Mamelukes. Prior to the Portuguese arrival in India in 1498, it provided "East Syrian" bishops to the Saint Thomas Christians. Patriarch Timothy I (727–823) wrote of the large Christian community in Tibet. The founders of Assyrian theology are Diodorus of Tarsus and Theodore of Mopsuestia, who taught at Antioch. The normative Christology of the Assyrian church was written by Babai the Great (551–628) and is clearly different from the accusations of dualism directed toward Nestorius: his main christological work is called the 'Book of the Union', and in it Babai teaches that the two qnome (essences) are unmingled but everlastingly united in the one parsopa (personality) of Christ.
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